Dean’s Troubles: Atheists, children and women.

I came upon this classic blog-rant on Memeorandum. The proprietor of Dean’s World gets plenty cheesed when people chide Catholics like him, even more so when they criticize the Church.

I’m sick of hearing bigots squawk about “Hitler’s Pope” and “ratlines” and “pedophile priests” and “being an enemy of science” and “burning Galileo” and “the Jesuits invented the modern Social Justice movement” or other gross distortions or outright fabrications.

Pointing out the mistreatment of Galileo or the timidity of Pius XII during the Holocaust is hurling bodily secretions (“spitting” and “crap”) in poor Dean’s direction so please refrain. Or else. This is not a request, this is your undoing.

Here’s the truth: the Catholic Church is almost certainly the least violent institution on the planet for anything close to its size and history–and in your heart you damn well know it, at least in terms of today’s Church.

It’s the least violent institution in all our history…at least in terms of today’s Church. The same could be said of today’s Charles Manson. Or of our contemporary plague.

And if you do any real investigating you’ll know it’s not just today’s Church; any reasonable analysis supports that Christianity brought peace throughout its history far more than it brought war and suffering and intolerance.

Dean’s ‘reasonable’ analysis: Formidable. Dean’s ‘factual’ analysis: Evanescent. Anyway here’s the screed’s big point:

Christians almost never live perfectly up to their ideals but the Church is inherently nonviolent–and honest people know this. What’s the Church ever really done to you except have ideas you don’t like? Or done something bad that couldn’t just as easily have been done by someone or something outside the Church?

To wit: “The Church is the largest and greatest institution in history, bringing us divinity, peace, art, science, and culture…but it’s only men.” Right, how could it be otherwise?

So Dean is playing the double-sided authoritarian. The pious and papists have all earned the power and influence they’ve accrued over the centuries – not to mention the thousands of billions in tithing and the planet’s greatest collection of art, some of it not merely stolen – but of course they’ve also raped children. Because c’mon, as if you wouldn’t do the same thing. Who did you think the Pope’s consorts were, a bunch of saints?

…NO, you [Christians] damn well don’t get special dispensation to tar innocent people if you were abused by someone within the Church. Innocents do not deserve to have you hold the crimes of others against them for all eternity. The Church leadership made mistakes. It was unbelievably painful. We owned it. Now how are Protestants doing with this issue?

Take that also-nauseating scumbags.

And, bigger question, for you smirking nonreligious secularists: what are you doing about the much bigger problem among government employees like teachers and female prison guards?

The first link there is a five point counter argument against kiddie-reaming being a Church thing, etc:

FACT: Catholic priests abuse at a rate far lower than that of other males in the general population.

Why can’t Percy the shut-in have the same shot at teaching Sunday school as Father Concepción? Hmm? The more relevant question would be ‘Is there some way he can dodge jail and keep his job, too?’ It’s also a relief to know that only four percent of the world’s 400,000 Catholic priests are pedophiles (phew). Jesus, I love data. That second link goes straight back to A Voice For Men, the bro’s rights activist sludge pit. Could it be that Dean’s World is run by the oh-so manly Dean Esmay?

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4 thoughts Dean’s Troubles: Atheists, children and women.

  1. avatar SAm says:

    All reasonable analysis supports the position which I hold with humble conviction.

    And there is data out there to back it up. Great data. Important data. With facts and all.

    Therefore, I’m not to be trifled with.

    .. but wait:

    ” Innocents do not deserve to have you hold the crimes of others against them for all eternity.”

    What?? That’s the whole foundation of the church!

  2. avatar toma says:

    Quoth Eve: ‘My bad…’

  3. avatar Rev. Howard Furst says:

    Jesus must be so pleased to hear an apologist proclaim that Priests of His church are no worse than the general population for child rape. Makes all that dying for our sins seem so worthwhile. It will pay off some day.

  4. avatar toma says:

    No point in arguing. A ‘reasonable analysis’ type-person shouldn’t expect any better than the Church we’ve got now, and should be grateful.

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